TRANSCRIPTMJ - Marlene Jamieson, interviewee; LW - Lavinia (Ann) Wilson, interviewee / LR - Lyn Royce, interviewer
MJ: From um...
LR: This is... this is from the... Is this from the, the black Masons' group?
LW: Yes.
MJ: Well, I guess. I think so.
LR: Think so?
LW: Mhmm
MJ: Mrs... Yeah. Mrs... Mrs...
LW: She doesn't have...
LR: This is wonderful...
LW: She has some up here...
MJ: It says coloured...
LW: ...but she doesn't have that one 'cause it has my brother in it. Yeah.
LR: That's wonderful...
MJ: She said, she said, she; um, Wilma, that's her name. She said she...
LW: Yeah, they all belonged.
LR: That's great!
MJ: ...she copied it. Copied it; yeah... She, it's, um...
LR: Oh! Look at this!
LW: I had my broth... my father's pin.
MJ: Do ya?
LW: Yeah
MJ: 'Cause I know my auntie, she said she stopped... I found the letter. She stopped; she belonged to something, don't ask me.
LR: 1920...
MJ: Excuse me. When they all died, everybody didn't know where they were anyway. So, um, she stopped going to meetings because...
LW: Mhmm
MJ: ...something...
LR: Right...
MJ: And then, um...
LW: Mhmm
MJ: In there, uh, my Grandmother; how would that be. So then my Grandfather, belonged; he was a Mason my mother said, and I'm just saying like who, who was it... Anyway, we got 18, there's 1871;
LR: Oh my gosh...
MJ: We got 1871 and we got 18 - Census - 1861 we got; yeah; but like I can't, I don't know who these people are, because I know Abraham and Bathsheba, but I can't, I don't know...
LW: Let me see...
MJ: ...who all the rest of them are... hode, hode, hode, hode, hodes [?] Oh, this thing is on and I'm babbling away...
LR: It's alright.
LW: Sometimes they list the children...
MJ: At the bottom, at the bottom...
LW: ...the children after them. Um...
MJ: Oh yeah, well there's 3 Abrahams. There's Abraham that came, escaped slavery; that's where my great grandfather, from Kentucky.
LR: Ah, okay...
MJ: From Kentucky, come up here, that's the story that I got.
LR: Do you...
MJ: End in Thorold Township.
LR: So, he came up here; did they, did he ever talk about it? Did you know him?
MJ: My great grandfather was... No...
LR: He was gone...
MJ: My mother, my grandmother married my... my fa... tsk! Grandfather! I don't know. She was around 17 or something, I think; he was in his 30s or 20s...
LR: Okay...
MJ: But I don't know, anyway...
LW: Okay...
MJ: I don't know if my father ever saw his... No! He didn't; because he died in 1887.
LR: Okay.
MJ: He didn't see him.
LR: Okay... Were there any stories about his journey?
MJ: Just that, no; no; oh, just that he laid [sic] in the field, what fields I don't know, for 3 days.
LR: Okay
MJ: I heard; and then he went back down and got his wife; but then I don't know if that's the way that went.
LW: Mhmm
MJ: This was the story. |
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